Andi Koppelt
5/10/2020 6:32:00 AM |
I agree with Anne. First finds were made within an expedition some time after the fall. Place of the fall is a rather moist region. All the uncleared finds cannot show a fresh gun-metal grey color without some signs of oxidation. Uncleaned early finds got a brownish velvet like patina. |
Andi Koppelt
4/18/2020 9:43:14 AM |
What about the rust pocks clearly to be seen? This piece must be cleaned. |
Alexander Seidel
4/12/2020 6:36:14 PM |
Oh yes, beautiful piece, I agree!
P.S. there is a small but also very nice sculpted individual of S.A. on it's way to me. If Paul agrees, I'll show it to you in one of the next MPODs, because this is quite a different example of patina which seems to be consistant with a later pickup date from the moist soil at the fall site. |
Paul Swartz
4/12/2020 4:37:32 PM |
I just added information I received today from Pani - 1300 grams and found 6 months after the fall. |
Andi Koppelt
4/12/2020 3:43:57 PM |
Nevertheless a beautiful Sikhote! |
Andi Koppelt
4/12/2020 3:25:49 PM |
I agree with Anne. First finds were made within an expedition some time after the fall. Place of the fall is a rather moist region. All the uncleared finds cannot show a fresh gun-metal grey color without some signs of oxidation. Uncleaned early finds got a brownish velvet like patina. |
Anne Black
4/12/2020 2:27:21 PM |
On 5/17/2019, MPOD published 2 pictures of a large Sikhote-Alin I had just acquired. That one came straight from the Vernadsky Museum, with stickers and label. It is not gun-metal grey, it is brown, closer to as-found condition. Previously, I had 2 other Sikhote-Alin specimens from the Vernadsky Museum, there were also in as-found condition. |
Steve Brittenham
4/12/2020 11:11:23 AM |
Kenneth, my MPOD submission of 5/16/2017 is a piece that Edwin Thompson traded out of a Russian museum many, many years ago. It was purportedly collected not long after the fall, so it should be representative of Matthias' comments about what those original pieces looked like. And Paul, nice 3D pic (Photo 3). I feel like many specimens are hard to fully appreciate in 2D pics -- this is definitely one that benefits from the "3D treatment"! |
Jim Strope
4/12/2020 11:05:38 AM |
Beautiful Sikhote-alin. Thank you for sharing. |
Andreas Ruh
4/12/2020 7:11:57 AM |
Happy Easter, of course, Not raster 😉 |
Andreas Ruh
4/12/2020 7:10:01 AM |
Nice individual. Thank you for sharing These beautiful Photos. Happy Raster to all of you. |
Alexander Seidel
4/12/2020 4:30:18 AM |
"Gun metal gray" is good as long as it is not further worked on for more blackening, as was unfortunately done with many specimen. I have several kinds of pieces of Sikhote Alin in my collection, but my first choice, also from an aesthetical point of view, would be that gun metal gray with a slight reddish tinge to it due to some oxidation, mainly to be noticed in the regmaglypts, little less on the edges or upper parts of the walls of the regs, where some handling was mostly done over time. |
matthias
4/12/2020 4:01:41 AM |
Beautiful SA. Despite of the lost info a scale cube would have been helpful to get a feeling for the dimensions of the piece.
Ken, indeed the "real wine" of SA includes the (sometimes sligtly blueish) gray and velvet-like shimmering of the surface. The early finds which went to museums all should look like that. My guess would be that later found rusty pieces were put into boiling oil to clean and to blacken them to be sold by dealers afterwards. So be happy with your gunmetal gray piece - sounds quite authentical to me. |
Kenneth Regelman
4/12/2020 1:01:31 AM |
Beautiful specimen Maybe someone can help me .
Back in early 90's someone told me that the real color of a Sikhote Alin is Gun metal Gray and the Russians had developed a way of blackening them . I was able to purchase a specimen with papers that came right out of a Russiam museum 20 years ago and it is Gunmetal Gray . ??? |
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