Shigekazu Yoneda
2/20/2024 5:31:14 PM |
Fake for fame but not for profits for some people. We Japanese never forget Shinichi Fujimura who forged finds in over 100 academic archaeological digs! |
Carl Agee
2/20/2024 10:27:52 AM |
I actually still have this lunar meteorite in my possession as I classified it. I will be sending the main mass back to the owner shortly. I would be interested in the quantitative evidence of chemical weathering that is claimed to be from NWA and not China. Regarding greed and money, this is a very small mass (44 grams), so marketing it would not seem to be a motive. If one was out to make money by transplanting NWA lunars, a more lucrative approach would be to "find" one of the kilogram+ lunars that are available. Let's not jump to conclusions without hard data to back it up! |
John lutzon
2/19/2024 9:01:46 PM |
Annnd, a meteorite is a meteorite; this one is Gorgeous!! Thank you. |
John lutzon
2/19/2024 6:34:55 PM |
If I remember correctly; Sgt. Joe Friday always said: Just the meteorites Ma'am, just the meteorites. And, Only the locations were changed to implicate the guilty. The best line was, Congrats to Ziyao if [authentic]! |
Anne Black
2/19/2024 3:13:29 PM |
Interesting, but it has been done before. Old-timers will remember how NWAs were "found" in southern Arizona and New Mexico. Then analysis of the grains of sand imbedded in the crack were the clue that exposed the misrepresentation. |
Andi Koppelt
2/19/2024 2:08:12 PM |
* regading zero lunars within 3385 finds in Chile somehow impressive. |
Andi Koppelt
2/19/2024 1:56:41 PM |
Ashanjiang even discovered an iron (Turpan003). Regarding the fact, that the average meteorite hunter has to find minimum 90 chondrites until the first achondrite/iron find, really gooood luck. ;-) |
Rex Martin
2/19/2024 11:34:31 AM |
The XinJiang hunter Ashanjiang found Ququkesu 001 eucrite in last December, then acquired this lunar Pakepake 005 in this January** will he discover martian in this month? lol |
Andi Koppelt
2/19/2024 6:34:37 AM |
Thanks to Xia pointing out a very bad development, bad for scientists, and the whole community. Fraud destroys everything! Hope, that cheaters in general get caught and prosecuted and exposed. Anyhow, if this is a real find, congrats to Ziyao, but doubts will be present all the time - that*s the bad effect. The community should have great interest to f**# every single cheater and leave well known sale platforms which show no interest to stop fraudulent offers. |
Shigekazu Yoneda
2/19/2024 4:42:13 AM |
The look and composition match some members of the Northwest Africa 7834 clan |
Amateur
2/19/2024 3:44:49 AM |
Blinded by greed and money, China is not short of moon, Mars and meteorites! |
mpod
2/19/2024 3:41:28 AM |
Are there methods to prove, Xia Zhipeng? Evtl. adherent soil? |
Xia Zhipeng
2/19/2024 2:22:43 AM |
I am always concerned about the finds alleged *domestic*.
There have been a few Xinjiang local hunters bringing meteorites to my lab and claiming themselves having found them. Even there were in situ photos and GPS coordinates provided, I still suspected that most of the 'finds' probably originated from Northwest Africa. The physical and chemical weathering features were dissimilar from those of the meteorites recovered in the Xinjiang deserts by my team. |
Benjamin P. Sun
2/19/2024 1:59:26 AM |
Amazing! Wonderful find! |
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